tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-407538260899948148.post7964674572163864602..comments2023-04-12T06:13:37.685-07:00Comments on Imperfect Reflections–1C13:12: They're the same, because the chapter headings say soMackenziehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00746528061521806095noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-407538260899948148.post-34884776345424510892022-10-26T23:49:41.861-07:002022-10-26T23:49:41.861-07:00Great rread thank youGreat rread thank youHumidifiers Elizabethhttps://www.humiditycontractors.com/us/dehumidifiers-new-jersey/humidifiers-elizabeth.shtmlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-407538260899948148.post-63191832190057968672011-10-28T23:21:01.142-07:002011-10-28T23:21:01.142-07:00Yeah, I stumbled upon quite a few commentaries tha...Yeah, I stumbled upon quite a few commentaries that supported the "two cleansings" view while researching for my Peter project: I don't recall any that supported one cleansing. <br />And about the quotation: trade is not always wrong: thievery is. Despite that, I agree with you that if that was the only difference, then they could well be the same event. But as I pointed out, literally every detail given marks a difference between the two accounts. Because of this, it seems foolish to assume they are the same event given the complete lack of any evidence for such a conclusion.Mackenziehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00746528061521806095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-407538260899948148.post-44496111425697896872011-10-28T22:30:18.562-07:002011-10-28T22:30:18.562-07:00Have you looked at any of the literature that also...Have you looked at any of the literature that also propounds this view? (Just for curiosity's sake). Also, plenty of scholarship thinks that there were two temple cleansing. (See this article for some interesting discussion and argument on the passage in general and then on the two cleansing issue specifically: http://bible.org/seriespage/cleansing-temple-john-212-22)<br />A minor push back for you though: John does say "house of trade" and not "den of thieves", which makes them look very different.(In this case they are likely different points of reference, so your assumption is correct). However, sometimes people quoted things but inserted slightly different words, paraphrased their original site of quotation or were quoting the LXX. Thus, it could in fact be the same quotation. This is mostly just a heads up that such a conclusion (i.e. that they are different quotations and thus different incidents) is not always the best. <br />Thus, this really doesn't affect your point at all, so I would still agree with your conclusion, but I thought you might be interested to here where your argument could be faulty in the future.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-407538260899948148.post-5285578321506366262011-10-27T23:00:47.329-07:002011-10-27T23:00:47.329-07:00I was really just pointing out that in order to be...I was really just pointing out that in order to be a good Jew, Jesus would have had to go to Jerusalem an absolute minimum of three times during his public ministry, and there's no reason to conflate two events just because they both happen there.Mackenziehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00746528061521806095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-407538260899948148.post-54780916898483961302011-10-27T19:59:33.694-07:002011-10-27T19:59:33.694-07:00I hadn't thought about how the celebration of ...I hadn't thought about how the celebration of Passover might play into this particular question. Interesting, I'll have to look into it.Kylehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12896234349432319733noreply@blogger.com