tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-407538260899948148.post8958763815676541057..comments2023-04-12T06:13:37.685-07:00Comments on Imperfect Reflections–1C13:12: Theology of the Sloppy Wet KissMackenziehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00746528061521806095noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-407538260899948148.post-28833925308210930832014-09-04T01:38:38.127-07:002014-09-04T01:38:38.127-07:00Thanks for responding! It sounds like we agree in...Thanks for responding! It sounds like we agree in principle but perhaps just disagree regarding this particular song. I read the lyrics to the other link you posted but haven't heard it yet. I suspect I will have to listen to it in order to give proper feedback (I think the music contributes to the lyrical interpretation). As always, I appreciate hearing your thoughts!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-407538260899948148.post-81591682144101724292014-09-02T16:57:02.450-07:002014-09-02T16:57:02.450-07:00Alishia,
Thanks for the pushback!
First off, I t...Alishia,<br /><br />Thanks for the pushback!<br /><br />First off, I think I'd agree with you about some songs being inappropriate in their use of erotic language. <br /><br />However, I don't think "How he Loves" suffers from that: The "sloppy wet kiss" line is the only "erotic" language in there. And I think in that context, it appropriately conveys a certain sense of messiness and passion. <br /><br />My objection, then, is to the whole "guilty by association" thing. The song breaks custom, but it does not break the commandment (Chesterton's "Manalive"). <br /><br />Thoughts? Also, did you click on the last link in the post? What did you think of THAT one?Mackenziehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00746528061521806095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-407538260899948148.post-49002604552771593692014-08-30T03:36:30.099-07:002014-08-30T03:36:30.099-07:00I really enjoyed this post! I have a push back and...I really enjoyed this post! I have a push back and I'd like to hear your thoughts. I think I agree with your point in this post - that Christianity at various times has objected to the physicality of sex and the physicality of the Incarnation. However, in my opinion, the eroticism found in some modern worship music doesn't seem to be the counter to this. I just can't shake the feeling that, because our heads and our hearts are so far apart, when we want to feel strongly toward God we try to tap into our own erotic passion because it's one of the strongest we have. Romantic love is so elevated in our culture (at least a narrow truncated version of romantic love), that all other loves are insignificant in comparison. I worry that the sentiment in songs like "How He Loves Us" is a symptom of the over emphasis on erotic love in our culture. Am I making sense? I find St. John of the Cross or George Herbert's poetry about the somewhat erotic nature of the love between God and humanity to be beautiful, moving, and appropriate; I just don't get the same impression from this song in particular. Thoughts?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-407538260899948148.post-29848887853236835082014-08-25T12:38:59.874-07:002014-08-25T12:38:59.874-07:00I originally had quotes around both "navel&qu...I originally had quotes around both "navel" and "mixed wine", but I figured that wasn't really necessary...in any case, I agree completely. Mackenziehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00746528061521806095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-407538260899948148.post-52403466510619999472014-08-25T10:52:24.838-07:002014-08-25T10:52:24.838-07:00Now, just imagine the horror if "navel" ...Now, just imagine the horror if "navel" had been translated more accurately...<br /><br />Song of Solomon has been problematic for Christianity for a long time. It is awkward to have an erotic poem in the middle of a book perceived to be above all that physical, body-related stuff. It also cuts against a view of women as sexually passive, merely exchanging sex for love and commitment. <br /><br />After 13 years of marriage, however, I find it to be a breathtakingly beautiful portrayal of the intensity of an emotional and sexual relationship where each leads and each follows, and everything becomes wrapped up in the delights of love. Diary of an Autodidacthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11849157548643091986noreply@blogger.com